Re: [dane] Preliminary agenda for London

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Fri, 14 February 2014 19:16 UTC

Return-Path: <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
X-Original-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dane@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AE71A0068 for <dane@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:16:34 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.347
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.347 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553] autolearn=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZgWKx_qIaUd for <dane@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:16:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278C11A02F7 for <dane@ietf.org>; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:16:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [10.20.30.90] (50-1-98-67.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [50.1.98.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.8/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1EJGS8w064953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:16:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org)
X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: Host 50-1-98-67.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [50.1.98.67] claimed to be [10.20.30.90]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\))
From: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAHw9_i+os4Y_L8JBucF=0+n5wjHkxLwJ+=Wdi-ZyLLQGA4cuiA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:16:27 -0800
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <CB44E1FA-9D01-40B0-B01A-EB2CB87B40FC@vpnc.org>
References: <CAHw9_i+os4Y_L8JBucF=0+n5wjHkxLwJ+=Wdi-ZyLLQGA4cuiA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827)
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dane/hiLmFeFt2la4MKOOKGngIhsZCsc
Cc: "<dane@ietf.org>" <dane@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [dane] Preliminary agenda for London
X-BeenThere: dane@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: DNS-based Authentication of Named Entities <dane.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dane>, <mailto:dane-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dane/>
List-Post: <mailto:dane@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dane-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dane>, <mailto:dane-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:16:35 -0000

On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> Please let us know if there is anything you'd like to add to the below...

Yes, definitely. There needs to be discussion on whether DANE is for acquisition of key assocation material, for discovering services that use the keying material, for having assurance that a service that uses the keying material should be available, or some combination of these. The SMTP draft has a very different take on this than what the WG agreed on for RFC 6698.

And, before someone replies to this heated topic, please start a new thread. It would be *really* useful for the London discussion if we have a focused discussion on the list first.

--Paul Hoffman