Re: [dbound] [DNSOP] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Wed, 27 February 2019 15:54 UTC

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Subject: Re: [dbound] [DNSOP] Related Domains By DNS (RDBD) Draft
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2019, Paul Wouters wrote:

>>>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brotman-rdbd/

One more question (and then I promise to walk away from the keyboard for
a while)

How is this data being consumed by the enduser ? It sort of begins
to look like an EV thing. Also, wouldn't attackers just link their
fake domain to another fake domain to get a green looking OKAY?

Paul