[Detnet] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-raw-architecture-27: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-raw-architecture-27: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-architecture/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (This DISUSS feedback is for the DETNET WG Chairs and Responsible AD) Given that this document was moved from the closed RAW WG to DETNET, I explicitly checked for consensus to publish this document during WGLC. I note with appreciation that this document was explicitly added as a milestone during the DETNET -04 re-chartering process in April 2025. I note that the shepherd report says: ==[ snip ]== 1. Does the working group (WG) consensus represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or did it reach broad agreement? The normal WG process has been followed with nothing special worth mentioning. The work was started in the RAW WG and has been completed in the DetNet WG after the merge of the RAW WG to the DetNet WG. The document reflects WG consensus, which represents strong concurrence of a number of individuals. ==[ snip ]== However, upon review, I cannot find evidence of support to publish this document in the WG discussion during the WGLC. The Datatracker history reports that the WGLC started in Oct-2024 and ended in Mar-2025. Thank you to the WG chairs for using this state in the Datatracker. ==[ snip ]== 2025-03-15/-24 closed of WGLC (Lou Berger) 2024-10-18/-21 start WGLC (Lou Berger) ==[ snip ]== The WGLC call thread on the DETNET ML started on 18-October-2024 at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/detnet/eYumAudcJqPFSARwmHRu8Mwfgi4/. While I can find Last Call directorate reviews and responses from the document authors and WG chairs to these reviews, no one from the WG appears to have responded to the WGLC supporting publication. Next, I assumed that the F2F plenary meeting discussions during the WGLC had established interest to publish this document. However, the meeting minutes did not establish that either. Caveat, I didn’t listen to the meeting recordings. ==[ snip ]== The IETF 121 (Nov-2024) DETNET meeting (during the WGLC) has no tangible sense of consensus -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-121-detnet-202411071300/ The IETF 122 (Mar-2025) DETNET meeting (also during the WGLC) has no mention of this document -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-122-detnet-202503170230/ ==[ snip ]== Perhaps my search skills missed key interim meetings or mailing list threads. Could some pointers please be provided that substantiate WG interest to publish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you to Behcet Sarikaya for the GENART review
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