Re: [Detnet] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls-06: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Tue, 16 February 2021 18:27 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Balázs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls-06: (with COMMENT)
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Balázs

Thank you for the prompt reply and your answer/fix

Regards

-éric

-----Original Message-----
From: Balázs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>
Date: Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 18:45
To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Cc: "draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls@ietf.org>, "detnet-chairs@ietf.org" <detnet-chairs@ietf.org>, "detnet@ietf.org" <detnet@ietf.org>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
Subject: RE: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls-06: (with COMMENT)

    Hi Éric,

    Many thanks for your review. My answers inline.

    Thanks
    Bala'zs


    -----Original Message-----
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    Subject: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls-06: (with COMMENT)

    Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
    draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls-06: No Objection

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    COMMENT:
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    Thank you for the work put into this document.

    Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be appreciated).

    I hope that this helps to improve the document,

    Regards,

    -éric

    == COMMENTS ==

    Mainly out of curiosity, why is draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls standard track while draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-over-tsn is informational ? (and I understand that they are dual protocols TSNoMPLS vs. MPLSoTSN)

    <Bala'zs> Yes. Informational vs. standard track was discussed in the WG and concluded to have "X-over-TSN" documents as informational.

    -- Abstract --
    Please expand TSN as it is not a RFC Editor well-known acronym.
    <Bala'zs> OK, I will fix this.