Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Mon, 08 July 2019 17:50 UTC
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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 10:50:38 -0700
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To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section
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Hi Loa, thank you for highlighting DetNet OAM issues and apologize for the delay to respond. Dear All, Mach and I have discussed the new drafts on DetNet data plane and decided to split draft-mirsky-detnet-oam into two documents: - draft-mirsky-detnet-mpls-oam <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirsky-detnet-mpls-oam/> - draft-mirsky-detnet-ip-oam <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirsky-detnet-ip-oam/> Will be asking for presentation slots in Montreal. Always appreciate comments, suggestions, and questions. Regards, Greg On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:10 PM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: > Bala'zs, > > The draft is expired, that is why it is not shown on the detnet page. > Normally that is a sign that the interest is not that high. > > Andy, > > Yes - you are right, but the difference between what we are doing for > the MPLS data plane and for the IP data plane was one reason that I > asked. Also when checking the draft-mirsky it has a strong MPLS leaning. > What was removed from the data plane draft was (the little we have) on > IP OAM. draft-mirsky does not add much compared to that. > > Greg, > > Please revive the draft, even if you do no other changes, we need it > active. That said I'm not sure that we want ONE draft covering both > MPLS and IP OAM, it is normally a recipe for delay. > > All, > > Once the draft-mirsky is active again, let us decide what we want to do. > I see two alternatives > > First, build on draft-mirsky and create one draft for everything. > > Second, break the IP OAM out of draft-mirsky and start a new draft for > DetNet IP OAM and base the DetNet MPLS OAM in draft-mirsky. > > I have a slight preference for the second alternative. > > But make it a wg decision. > > /Loa > > On 2019-05-22 01:39, Greg Mirsky wrote: > > Hi Balazs, > > thank you for pointing to the OAM for DetNet draft. It lapsed and that > > may be why is not showing up among other DetNet documents. Mach and I > > will work on adding OAM for DetNet over IP data plane. I think it would > > be good to use this document for discussion, the definition of OAM for > > DetNet over all possible data plane variants. We welcome cooperation and > > co-authors. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:43 AM Balázs Varga A > > <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com <mailto:balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>> > wrote: > > > > Hi Loa, > > > > We have a dedicated OAM document: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-detnet-oam-02 > > > > Unfortunately not showed among the DetNet documents :--((( > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/detnet/documents/ > > > > Cheers > > Bala'zs > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: detnet <detnet-bounces@ietf.org > > <mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 8:54 AM > > To: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com <mailto:agmalis@gmail.com>>; > > Balázs Varga A <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com > > <mailto:balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>> > > Cc: detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> > > Subject: Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section > > > > Bala’zs and Andy, > > > > I have no problem removing the OAM section from the data plane > > documents. > > > > The question I have is what do we do about the OAM for the specific > > data planes, do we paln separate documents?? > > > > /Loa > > > > On 2019-05-21 00:54, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > > Balázs, > > > > > > Sounds good, it's just a placeholder right now. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:20 AM Balázs Varga A > > > <balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com <mailto:balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com> > > <mailto:balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com > > <mailto:balazs.a.varga@ericsson.com>>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi,____ > > > > > > __ __ > > > > > > Data plane documents are under review to prepare them for the > > > workgroup last call.____ > > > > > > OAM section is intended to be removed from the “DetNet Data > > Plane: > > > IP” document.____ > > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip/____ > > > > > > __ __ > > > > > > Any objections?____ > > > > > > __ __ > > > > > > Cheers____ > > > > > > Bala’zs____ > > > > > > __ __ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > detnet mailing list > > > detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> <mailto:detnet@ietf.org > > <mailto:detnet@ietf.org>> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > detnet mailing list > > > detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu <mailto: > loa@pi.nu> > > Senior MPLS Expert > > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > detnet mailing list > > detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > _______________________________________________ > > detnet mailing list > > detnet@ietf.org <mailto:detnet@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > detnet mailing list > > detnet@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet > > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >
- [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Balázs Varga A
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Greg Mirsky
- Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section Greg Mirsky