Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section

[Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>]

Hi Loa,
thank you for your suggestion. Will revive the draft today.
And I agree with your suggestion to discuss whether we want to have one
draft for DetNet OAM over all possible variants of the data plane.

Best regards,
Greg

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 11:10 PM Loa Andersson <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Bala'zs,
>
> The draft is expired, that is why it is not shown on the detnet page.
> Normally  that is a sign that the interest is not that high.
>
> Andy,
>
> Yes - you are right, but the difference between what we are doing for
> the MPLS data plane and for the IP data plane was one reason that I
> asked. Also when checking the draft-mirsky it has a strong MPLS leaning.
> What was removed from the data plane draft was (the little we have) on
> IP OAM. draft-mirsky does not add much compared to that.
>
> Greg,
>
> Please revive the draft, even if you do no other changes, we need it
> active. That said I'm not sure that we want ONE draft covering both
> MPLS and IP OAM, it is normally a recipe for delay.
>
> All,
>
> Once the draft-mirsky is active again, let us decide what we want to do.
> I see two alternatives
>
> First, build on draft-mirsky and create one draft for everything.
>
> Second, break the IP OAM out of draft-mirsky and start a new draft for
> DetNet IP OAM and base the DetNet MPLS OAM in draft-mirsky.
>
> I have a slight preference for the second alternative.
>
> But make it a wg decision.
>
> /Loa
>
> On 2019-05-22 01:39, Greg Mirsky wrote:
> > Hi Balazs,
> > thank you for pointing to the OAM for DetNet draft. It lapsed and that
> > may be why is not showing up among other DetNet documents. Mach and I
> > will work on adding OAM for DetNet over IP data plane. I think it would
> > be good to use this document for discussion, the definition of OAM for
> > DetNet over all possible data plane variants. We welcome cooperation and
> > co-authors.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:43 AM Balázs Varga A
> > <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Loa,
> >
> >     We have a dedicated OAM document:
> >     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-detnet-oam-02
> >
> >     Unfortunately not showed among the DetNet documents :--(((
> >     https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/detnet/documents/
> >
> >     Cheers
> >     Bala'zs
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: detnet <[e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>> On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
> >     Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 8:54 AM
> >     To: Andrew G. Malis <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>;
> >     Balázs Varga A <[e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> >     Cc: [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >     Subject: Re: [Detnet] Data Plane IP, OAM section
> >
> >     Bala’zs and Andy,
> >
> >     I have no problem removing the OAM section from the data plane
> >     documents.
> >
> >     The question I have is what do we do about the OAM for the specific
> >     data planes, do we paln separate documents??
> >
> >     /Loa
> >
> >     On 2019-05-21 00:54, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> >      > Balázs,
> >      >
> >      > Sounds good, it's just a placeholder right now.
> >      >
> >      > Cheers,
> >      > Andy
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:20 AM Balázs Varga A
> >      > <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     Hi,____
> >      >
> >      >     __ __
> >      >
> >      >     Data plane documents are under review to prepare them for the
> >      >     workgroup last call.____
> >      >
> >      >     OAM section is intended to be removed from the “DetNet Data
> >     Plane:
> >      >     IP” document.____
> >      >
> >      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip/____
> >      >
> >      >     __ __
> >      >
> >      >     Any objections?____
> >      >
> >      >     __ __
> >      >
> >      >     Cheers____
> >      >
> >      >     Bala’zs____
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