Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-16.txt

Lishan Li <lilishan48@gmail.com> Wed, 19 October 2016 16:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-16.txt
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The size of certificate is not very large.
The reason of changing one cert to multiple certs is that: Once the
AlgorithmNotSupported error status code, the server has to encrypt the
message with the mandatory encryption algorithm. So the certificate with
the mandatory algorithm should be contained. So the number of the contained
certificates is just a little.
Randy and Stephen have reviewed this draft and did't not propose this
problem. For this problem, maybe we can ask for their comments.

Best Regards,
Lishan

2016-10-19 22:44 GMT+08:00 Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com>:

> BTW:
>
> I haven’t looked into it myself, but I wonder whether having a
> “compressed” certificate is possible (i.e., using the LZ or similar
> compression (perhaps zlib) on the certificate)? Perhaps the certificates
> are already in some kind of compressed format?
>
> There’s also an interesting question whether compressing the entire DHCPv6
> message before encrypting it has any value? That might also avoid the need
> for a compressed certificate.
>
> The cost to doing this (cpu and code) would likely be fairly minor, but it
> could avoid generating (as many) fragments on the network.
>
> - Bernie
>
> On 10/19/16, 10:04 AM, "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dhcwg [mailto:dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
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> >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:41 PM
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> >Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org
> >Subject: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-16.txt
> >
> >
> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> >directories.
> >This draft is a work item of the Dynamic Host Configuration of the IETF.
> >
> >        Title           : Secure DHCPv6
> >        Authors         : Sheng Jiang
> >                          Lishan Li
> >                          Yong Cui
> >                          Tatuya Jinmei
> >                          Ted Lemon
> >                          Dacheng Zhang
> >       Filename        : draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-16.txt
> >       Pages           : 29
> >       Date            : 2016-10-18
> >
> >Abstract:
> >   DHCPv6 includes no deployable security mechanism that can protect
> >   end-to-end communication between DHCP clients and servers.  This
> >   document describes a mechanism for using public key cryptography to
> >   provide such security.  The mechanism provides encryption in all
> >   cases, and can be used for authentication based on pre-sharing of
> >   authorized certificates.
> >
> >
> >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6/
> >
> >There's also a htmlized version available at:
> >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-16
> >
> >A diff from the previous version is available at:
> >https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-16
> >
> >
> >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
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