Re: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues
Christian Strauf <strauf@uni-muenster.de> Thu, 12 February 2004 14:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues
From: Christian Strauf <strauf@uni-muenster.de>
To: Vijayabhaskar A K <vijayak@india.hp.com>
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Hi Vijay! I agree with Stig in his mail (Stig: could you be so kind a post your response to the list? tnx!) saying that we have fundamentally different views. Having DHCPv4 only convey v4 information and DHCPv6 only v6 information is only one view. Another view is to regard DHCPv6 merely as means of transport. If I remember correctly, there's no statement in RFC 3315 saying that you must only transport IPv6 information with DHCPv6. Additionally, there are a number of paradigms in DHCPv6 that we miss in DHCPv4 in our day to day operations, e.g. going away from using MACs for per-host address assignment but instead use DUIDs/IAIDs etc.. I see a real gain of administrative comfort in using DHCPv6 for transporting IPv4 information. > eg:- SLP. In this way the problem exists still. So, I guess the best way > to deal with the issue, rather than duplicating dhcpv4 options, its good > to refer as IPv4 mapped IPv6 addresses. But still I am not convinced There're cases where this is not desirable e.g. when using broadcast address options for IPv4 which only make sense as suboptions of OPTION_IAADDR_IPv4. > parameters. They should be disjoint list configured by an intelligent > admin. Thats it. Well, from an admin's point of view it's practical to only have to administrate DUIDs and IAIDs for dual-stack hosts, not MAC addresses as well. > overloaded dhcpv6 client.I couldn't get a reason why there should be > single dhcpclient. Am I missing something here? The issues listed in draft-chown-dhc-dual-stack-00 can be solved by having such a single client. Putting aside whether this is a pure DHCPv6 client that can request IPv4 information options or if it is a combined DHCPv4/-v6 client, it is an elegant solution to the problems outlined there. Cheers, Christian -- JOIN - IP Version 6 in the WiN Christian Strauf A DFN project Westfälische Wilhelms-Universität Münster http://www.join.uni-muenster.de Zentrum für Informationsverarbeitung Team: join@uni-muenster.de Röntgenstrasse 9-13 Priv: strauf@uni-muenster.de D-48149 Münster / Germany GPG-/PGP-Key-ID: 1DFAAA9A Fon: +49 251 83 31639, Fax: +49 251 83 31653 _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Vijayabhaskar A K
- [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Vijayabhaskar A K
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Christian Strauf
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Vijayabhaskar A K
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Cristian Cadar
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Vijayabhaskar A K
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Vijayabhaskar A K
- RE: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Bernie Volz
- RE: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Christian Strauf
- RE: [dhcwg] Dual stack issues Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] [Fwd: Re: Dual stack issues] Robert Elz