Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements-02.txt

"Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com> Thu, 08 October 2020 14:19 UTC

Return-Path: <volz@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: dhcwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dhcwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CF63A09FF for <dhcwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:19:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com header.b=CR3+GiME; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com header.b=c5wiubNI
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CTn_RPfQ0F61 for <dhcwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74E4C3A0991 for <dhcwg@ietf.org>; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5904; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1602166790; x=1603376390; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=wO+m4gQKl3puSmLZqfGoTRaEhdxmczdyreZb3Rlt9zg=; b=CR3+GiME9cqk4D34YLvpe0verHnbwE72qFcPJBcdygJs5YHV5PTUw4RJ s9FB4Zh5uvSo+Dl4JLr/nXDALw2DNEGQETJ6TXGlp4jDafwjBMEkvPb81 BBTNQxbfkHTBJKAWoQSb3QtGdCkTfXIOPXJApmRyjfccpdOQrrbci+yam Q=;
IronPort-PHdr: 9a23:8B5UbRAgyZqUleUcC2mqUyQJPHJ1sqjoPgMT9pssgq5PdaLm5Zn5IUjD/qw01A3GWJWd4PVB2KLasKHlDGoH55vJ8HUPa4dFWBJNj8IK1xchD8iIBQyeTrbqYiU2Ed4EWApj+He2YkdQCID1YFiB6nG35CQZTxP4Mwc9L+/pG4nU2sKw0e36+5DabwhSwjSnZrYnJxStpgKXvc4T0oY=
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A3CQB8H39f/4kNJK1gHgEBCxIMQIFEC4FSUQdwWS8sCoQzg0YDjVGYe4FCgREDVQsBAQENAQEYCwoCBAEBhEoCF4FzAiU3Bg4CAwEBCwEBBQEBAQIBBgRthVwBC4VyAQEBAQIBAQEQEREMAQEsCwEEBwQCAQgRBAEBAQICJgICAiULFQgIAgQOBQgagwWCSwMOIAEOnh8CgTmIYXaBMoMBAQEFhS8YghADBoEOKoJyg2uGVhuCAIERQ4JNPoIaQgEBgUUcgxUzgi2TRJMFkRQKgmibCYMTigWUF5MagXqeIgIEAgQFAg4BAQWBaiSBV3AVGiGCaVAXAg2OHwwXg06FFIVCdDcCBgEJAQEDCXyMOwGBEAEB
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.77,351,1596499200"; d="scan'208";a="823749076"
Received: from alln-core-4.cisco.com ([173.36.13.137]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 08 Oct 2020 14:19:48 +0000
Received: from XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (xch-aln-002.cisco.com [173.36.7.12]) by alln-core-4.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 098EJmnY027269 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 8 Oct 2020 14:19:48 GMT
Received: from xhs-aln-003.cisco.com (173.37.135.120) by XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com (173.36.7.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:19:48 -0500
Received: from xhs-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.227.246) by xhs-aln-003.cisco.com (173.37.135.120) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:19:45 -0500
Received: from NAM04-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (72.163.14.9) by xhs-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.227.246) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:19:45 -0500
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=GbW1EmJHCUfvGaEip9izRGI+J6OvekPFlAw/dmd8hfdnqkj28CwYAUY6qrQElz9VtdhyJrirXR0PtJilS86eyuqXBeoQNiFNq+Q3RpL8aMzF8+XOFPKhFIq+k6BP8Uf01mUcVRj79QXMpQ/3i89wEcPCwc3fG4NsRjOVYT0WrDXutJxS5yv9glSzpWOXm1CSYJCTnms9PNYF4bPepxjgEBCCM2aVI59hcXIm3JzUNU/Rb5nxSO/E+mKSCBlVNDQoaH4OPu6Bqfm4Jr3wYqjFyjjtydTEMBBC5Nqts1chBv/3Hxu4Asj6Rb0zFQyM1U55L/Wl0mbmMbEJ8kXf02QtCQ==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=wO+m4gQKl3puSmLZqfGoTRaEhdxmczdyreZb3Rlt9zg=; b=RL4VbAb2UiUdK9iGE/m9N88Q5zZvAUIZog2Binf68CP+DzPWkoEokBfpoqxTgJyQAK1QnuxEOuyL3gAqJOG9MxQ8jxeh5LlziNAsNwFoREhS2Qhor00GyYwnK9LrFVBAJJp/Rt//+HLihHA1flWzwN+He0htNrsxvaIOPTDFhv6z00PS8g442QUqwUqlSRTyWs9ZGibBgGsfK1Z+wjiZTKqwwlg8t6GJxRMCBy6RJKdV/f3Uqq+5Oy3ehsC7aQwWW6ZGD5Y0WN49n8j7BxEnqCNJsjp2ENdTNJizrWHRNOLfVqPUgklzH4QHKXLWb32/ueiXYZwxZ9W5QrGstVfq+g==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cisco.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=cisco.com; dkim=pass header.d=cisco.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-cisco-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=wO+m4gQKl3puSmLZqfGoTRaEhdxmczdyreZb3Rlt9zg=; b=c5wiubNI80rytaLHrBGBmKr0r/MdV56/92iVJxwV8iOtEjwQ+XVvRTERBJ4EGtAF8JtfcTFqXp3ZwDQMduC6KRdtGwqGKVLZnDbUMoBFt0PcHjc+CZsh40L7TCWZry+aEp/WOgYR5YcvdBvgwoBcWXQVmqp2VZm/oP31kMHXVF0=
Received: from BN7PR11MB2547.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:406:af::18) by BN7PR11MB2564.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:406:b1::17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3455.23; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 14:19:45 +0000
Received: from BN7PR11MB2547.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::2180:35e4:fe29:e470]) by BN7PR11MB2547.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::2180:35e4:fe29:e470%3]) with mapi id 15.20.3455.024; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 14:19:45 +0000
From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz@cisco.com>
To: "ianfarrer@gmx.com" <ianfarrer@gmx.com>
CC: dhcwg <dhcwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements-02.txt
Thread-Index: AQHWnJQ0ACfgZh95tUCC+YwBcNJANqmMfBFwgAFCrwCAAAGIYA==
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:19:45 +0000
Message-ID: <BN7PR11MB2547325D7565DA83C992092CCF0B0@BN7PR11MB2547.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <160206597879.10765.16093538868178381762@ietfa.amsl.com> <7DA789F6-8C44-4DC9-A9D3-6DFE6D4F4A0E@gmx.com> <BYAPR11MB254950BDC4AAC52BAB8F0C83CF0A0@BYAPR11MB2549.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <AA8201F7-2F84-40DA-8CB1-1B02ADFCDF16@gmx.com>
In-Reply-To: <AA8201F7-2F84-40DA-8CB1-1B02ADFCDF16@gmx.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
authentication-results: gmx.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;gmx.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=cisco.com;
x-originating-ip: [173.38.117.86]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 079bd62b-5fc4-4ab2-517b-08d86b9534b6
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BN7PR11MB2564:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <BN7PR11MB2564DA9C5560225253BCD637CF0B0@BN7PR11MB2564.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:9508;
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: JEx0ORHsff3toGMCk99XnUphaEoFsrRV85mW0sQZ/wBU0U7IC+e3TDlYgW4De4Un1oxWOuKjC+LpIpdvtzHKLMO4VSh4mGAC9qRgVPjxPEQykDf735QprKviIz/mDdcDe+Nl4nm3MKjVvCbWXllIq41QGNUlonFX6LBB1x/X4Zs0WrYhOnGiNej97aaglu6ZekMgGT9Km0P7ae4PSD0ha5tNaZFNVhORWSkaHfUqkrUwtN5+10I4pt5IjYtBPMy0uYMN+u0uC1pu0VZXYI9w373wEcvWBMsEVL7Beqcwb8Gb/HQrG9K6JKeTcaryZLneuqDHmYGLZ+W+85MIgyciV3S80pCd8ZBAv25Tsqn3o08f8D9sPw9XF7qigAaDk1W1GhuJMotpiBg4RDCiGx5d/dmxf1lC6PVCFicRCkonLf6rnj7Rs0c4QyRpJRPQMD/kJU1cs/FVkRWUopY8BwvM1w==
x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:BN7PR11MB2547.namprd11.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(39860400002)(136003)(366004)(346002)(376002)(396003)(316002)(86362001)(966005)(8676002)(83080400001)(478600001)(7696005)(6916009)(52536014)(55016002)(5660300002)(6506007)(53546011)(2906002)(33656002)(8936002)(4326008)(26005)(66446008)(66946007)(66556008)(64756008)(66574015)(71200400001)(9686003)(76116006)(83380400001)(66476007)(186003)(518174003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101;
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: 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
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: BN7PR11MB2547.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 079bd62b-5fc4-4ab2-517b-08d86b9534b6
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 08 Oct 2020 14:19:45.0988 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: GPRPEz2wczv0k+dP275jVQkeT3COCIQgIdOZQy3TeE4sgIxC6ivrZ99l0WjYjPpD
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN7PR11MB2564
X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com
X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.36.7.12, xch-aln-002.cisco.com
X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-4.cisco.com
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dhcwg/m7x5QOAT2rYIoPLT6mVcxh6tnGU>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements-02.txt
X-BeenThere: dhcwg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: <dhcwg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dhcwg>, <mailto:dhcwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dhcwg/>
List-Post: <mailto:dhcwg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dhcwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg>, <mailto:dhcwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:19:55 -0000

Hi:

>"DHCPv6 Prefix Delegating Relay” which is not particularly descriptive. We suggest changing it to ‘Requirements for DHCPv6 Prefix Delegating Relays’

That or "DHCPv6 Prefix Delegating Relay Requirements" would be fine I think.

- Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: dhcwg <dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of ianfarrer@gmx.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:05 AM
To: Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com>
Cc: dhcwg <dhcwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements-02.txt

Hi Bernie,

Thanks for the comments. Did you have any thoughts about the proposed change to the title?

Please see inline below.

Thanks,
Ian

> On 7. Oct 2020, at 21:08, Bernie Volz (volz) <volz@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Thanks Ian for the updates.
> 
> I suggest we wait a few days to see if v6ops or ipv6 working groups have any comments (as your emailed them) before I proceed with sending the document on.
> 
> 
> In reviewing, I also noticed the following minor items:
> 
> Minor nit in section 1?
> 
>   Multi-hop DHCPv6 relaying is not affected, as the requirements in
>   this document are solely applicable to the DHCP relay agent co-
>   located with the first-hop router that the DHCPv6 client requesting
>   the prefix is connected to, no changes to any subsequent relays in
>   the path are needed.
> 
> Would "so no changes" (or thus no changes) be appropriate? It just seems something is missing here. Though two free grammar checkers I used didn't seem to flag it broken (either with or without my changes).

[if - Re-reading this, the sentence is overlong and the commas make it difficult to parse. I think the following wording clears this up:

  Multi-hop DHCPv6 relaying is not affected.  The requirements in
  this document are solely applicable to the DHCP relay agent co-
  located with the first-hop router that the DHCPv6 client requesting
  the prefix is connected to, so no changes to any subsequent relays in
  the path are needed.
]

> 
> And, in section 3.5:
> 
>   If the client loses information about a prefix that it is delegated
>   while the lease entry and associated route is still active in the
>   delegating relay, then the relay will forward traffic to the client
>   which the client will return to the relay (which is the client's
>   default gateway (learnt via an RA).  The loop will continue until
>   either the client is successfully reprovisioned via DHCP, or the
>   lease ages out in the relay.
> 
> Missing a second closing parenthesis: (which is the client's default gateway (learnt via an RA)). 

[if - OK]

> 
> Please do not publish an 03 for now as these issues are very minor. We can see if other comments are raised.
> 
> - Bernie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhcwg <dhcwg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of ianfarrer@gmx.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:25 AM
> To: dhcwg <dhcwg@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [dhcwg] I-D Action: 
> draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-pd-relay-requirements-02.txt
> 
> Hi
> 
> We’ve just posted an update to this draft based on the comments received in WGLC. Many thanks for your reviews and suggestions.
> 
> The major changes since -01 are:
> 
> 1. Rewritten abstract section
> 2. Provided clarification on multi-hop relays 3. Changed text related 
> to handling of unknown messages by relays and removed req. G-2 that covered this.
> 4. Provided references to sections in CMTS and BNG documents 5. Added 
> section about forwarding loops between clients and relays 6. Updated 
> requirement R-4 to detail on avoiding the loops
> 
> I think that all of the WGLC comments are now addressed, with the exception of a question from Ole regarding implementors experience related to requirement R-4. I’ve just sent out a question on v6ops and 6man to see if we can get feedback on this.
> 
> One final question. The draft is currently called "DHCPv6 Prefix Delegating Relay” which is not particularly descriptive. We suggest changing it to ‘Requirements for DHCPv6 Prefix Delegating Relays’. Any objections to this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ian
> 

_______________________________________________
dhcwg mailing list
dhcwg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg