RE: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-civil-07.txt
"Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com> Mon, 21 November 2005 23:58 UTC
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From: "Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com>
To: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:11:39 -0600
Subject: RE: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-civil-07.txt
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Hmm.. Sounds like OBO to me. ;) I actually think that network management find this misbehaving phone has other better options at hand than this. If the server doesn't support LCI then I don't think that this option is going to help, and if the server does support LCI then other options such using the lease query mechanism proposed in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dhc-leasequery-09.txt to get the LCI data or relay data from the server directly. I still think that the potential long term mess is far worse than the short-term gains. Cheers James > -----Original Message----- > From: Henning Schulzrinne [mailto:hgs@cs.columbia.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:03 AM > To: Winterbottom, James > Cc: Randall Gellens; geopriv@ietf.org; DHCP discussion list > Subject: Re: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp- > civil-07.txt > > > > Winterbottom, James wrote: > >>This does mean that a client has to make a possibly unpleasant choice > >>between not sending the information, and thus possibly making it > >>harder be located in an emergency or possibly having poorer service > >>in some other area, and sending it with no redistribution/retention > >>limits. > > > > > > [AJW] I simply don't understand this statement. If the end-point has its > > location, how is providing that location to a DHCP server going to > > assist with emergency call routing? > > It's a bit of a stretch, but the logic would be something like: > > - End point knows location, but client application doesn't know how to > retrieve or use it (this would include all current IP telephony soft > clients, for example); > > - in an enterprise environment, the proxy server gets to ask the DHCP > server for location information (and uses it for emergency call routing). > > I agree that this is not a deployment scenario we should make the > preferred outcome. > > The more likely case is that this is used for network management ("find > the misbehaving PC or phone"). > > > > > > My personal opinion is that allowing the transfer of location from the > > client to the server in this manner is a significant stretch of the > > intentions laid out in RFC-3694 and quite far reaching application and > > security implications. > > > > > > Cheers > > James > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------ > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may > > contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. > > If you have received it in error, please notify the sender > > immediately and delete the original. Any unauthorized use of > > this email is prohibited. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------ > > [mf2] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Geopriv mailing list > > Geopriv@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any unauthorized use of this email is prohibited. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [mf2] _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
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- [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-ci… Ted Hardie
- [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-ci… Ralph Droms
- [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-ci… Ralph Droms
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [Geopriv] Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… John Schnizlein
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Ted Hardie
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Ted Hardie
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… peter_blatherwick
- RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… Marc Linsner
- Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-geopriv-dhc… John Schnizlein
- RE: [Geopriv] Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Bernie Volz (volz)
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Geopriv] Re: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Tom-PT Taylor
- [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-g… Randall Gellens
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Winterbottom, James
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Winterbottom, James
- [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-g… Ted Hardie
- RE: [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ie… Randall Gellens
- [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-g… Randall Gellens
- [Geopriv] RE: [dhcwg] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-g… Randall Gellens