fw:re:[Diffserv-interest] how to treat incoming traffic

"Jeff Norman" <jnorman@nortelnetworks.com> Mon, 17 September 2001 17:27 UTC

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From: Jeff Norman <jnorman@nortelnetworks.com>
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Oops... forgot to include DiffServ-Int group in response... sorry.
--Jeff

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>Subject: re:[Diffserv-interest] how to treat incoming traffic
>Date:    Sep 17 10:01 2001
>From:    "Jeff Norman" <jnorman@americasm01.nt.com>
>To:      "Andrzej Czerczak" <Andrzej_Czerczak/HeadQ@netia.pl>
>
>
>Andrzej,
>  I think you may be confused with the main objective of using ECN in
>TCP flows.  The purpose of using ECN with TCP flows is to enable the
>applications to react to network congestion with their TCP window
>sizes without the need for TCP packets being dropped, which causes
>time-outs and packets being re-transmitted (using up more router and
>network resources).
>
>I would say that your statement of using egress TCP traffic policing
>would not be used in place of ECN, but instead be used with it (to
>determine the ECN of TCP packets)
>
>I have not heard of too many vendors implementing IP ECN into
>their routers, nor have I heard a big push for it by customers in
>the industry.
>
>I too would like to hear from others about what they think about
>the practical value of IP ECN.
>
>I have not heard anything about research regarding controlling UDP flows,
>but someone else may have.
>
>Best Regards,
>--Jeff
>
>In message "[Diffserv-interest] how to treat incoming traffic", you write:
>
>>Hi,
>>I know the ECN-based proposals  how to control TCP-based incoming traffic
>>in DiffServ architecture. Has it at the moment a practical value? Why not
>>to use egress TCP traffic policing?
>>Could you  point out on-going research how to control UDP incoming traffic
>>if it conforms to the customer contract (receiver-based traffic control) in
>>the diffserv architecture?
>>
>>rgrds
>>Andrzej
>>
>>
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