Re: [Dime] Question regarding diameter session

<lionel.morand@orange.com> Thu, 29 June 2017 10:22 UTC

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To: Ivan Skytte Jørgensen <isj-dime@i1.dk>, "dime@ietf.org" <dime@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Dime] Question regarding diameter session
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Hi,

Please see below.

Regards,

Lionel

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : DiME [mailto:dime-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Ivan Skytte Jørgensen
> Envoyé : jeudi 29 juin 2017 11:21
> À : dime@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Dime] Question regarding diameter session
> 
> On Thursday 29 June 2017 13:15:05 Ajinkya Joshi wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > >From the RFC 6733, it is clear that diameter session is identified
> > >bases on
> > session-id, which has to be globally unique. Also in section 2.5
> > (Connections vs Sessions), it's clearly mentioned that one connection
> > can be used to multiplex multiple diameter sessions.
> > I have following questions related to diameter session -
> >
> > Is there any implicit correlation between diameter session and origin-host?
> 
> Only what is spelled out in the RFC "The Session-Id MUST begin with the sender's
> identity [...]"

[LM] correct.

> 
> A dubious diameter implementation may decode the session-id extracting what
> the origin-host might be. But that would be silly since it is already present in the
> origin-host AVP. Well-behaved diameter implementations treat session-id as an
> opaque string.
> 
> > Does diameter standard allow different requests for the same session
> > to have different origin-host value?
> 
> Yes, eg RAR and ASR requests will have a typically have an origin-host/realm
> different from where the session-id was created.

[LM] if the question was for requests with different origin-host received by the same server for the same session, the answer is NO.
Session related data maintained by a server for a given session are bounded to a single Origin-host. As said in the RFC6733, 
  "A session is a
   logical concept at the application layer that exists between the
   Diameter client and the Diameter server; it is identified via the
   Session-Id AVP."
There is therefore a 1-to-1 relationship between the server and the client initiating the session. If a server would accept session related messages from different nodes for the same session, it would not possible to ensure a consistent management of the session state, e.g. node A creating the session, node B terminating the session whereas node A is not aware. 

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