Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset reviewer
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 06 September 2006 18:45 UTC
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Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:45:27 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Ted Hardie <hardie@qualcomm.com>, discuss@apps.ietf.org, ietf-charsets@iana.org
Subject: Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset reviewer
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(IETF list removed, since this is about to become specialized) --On Wednesday, 06 September, 2006 11:04 -0700 Ted Hardie <hardie@qualcomm.com> wrote: > The Applications Area is soliciting volunteers willing to > serve as the IANA charset reviewer. This position entails > reviewing charset registrations submitted to IANA in > accordance with the procedures set out in RFC 2978. It > requires the reviewer to monitor discussion on the > ietf-charsets mailing list (moderating it, if necessary); it > also requires that the reviewer interact with the registrants > and IANA on the details of the registration. There is > currently a small backlog, and it will be necessary to work to > resolve that backlog during the initial period of the > appointment. >... Perhaps the need for a new volunteer in this area is the time to ask a broader question: At the time 2978 (and its predecessor, 2278) were defined, there were a large number of charsets in heavy use and there was some general feeling in the implementer community that, despite the provisions of RFC 2277, Unicode/ISO 10646 were not quite ready. Although we probably still have some distance to go (the issues with my net-Unicode draft may be illustrative), I wonder if we are reaching the point at which a stronger "use Unicode on the wire" recommendation would be in order. The implications of such a recommendation would presumably include a 2978bis that made the requirements for registration of a new charset _much_ tougher, e.g., requiring a demonstration that the then-current version of Unicode cannot do the relevant job and/or evidence that the newly-proposed charset is needed in deployed applications. This question is motivated, not by a strong love for Unicode, but by the observation that RFC 2277 requires it and that the IETF is shifting toward it in a number of areas. More options and possibilities for local codings that are not generally known and supported do not help with interoperability; perhaps it is time to start pushing back. And that, of course, would dramatically change the work of the charset reviewer by reducing the volume but increasing the amount of evaluation to be done. john
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… John C Klensin
- Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset reviewer Ted Hardie
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… John C Klensin
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Tim Bray
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Ned Freed
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Keith Moore
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Tim Bray
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Ned Freed
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Bruce Lilly
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Keld Jørn Simonsen
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Terje Bless
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Mark Davis
- Re: Volunteer needed to serve as IANA charset rev… Martin Duerst
- Problems (and non-problems) in charset registry (… Martin Duerst
- Re: Problems (and non-problems) in charset regist… Ned Freed