Re: [dispatch] IPv6 Zone Identifiers in URIs (RFC6874bis)

If we know it's not going to be implemented by browsers for the foreseeable future and we still choose to publish something, it should be clearly marked as what's effectively a hope-based standard.

Cheers,

> On 18 Feb 2022, at 6:58 am, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> FYI, we have recently updated this draft at
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-03.html
> 
> We opened discussion with various people in the browser community, but
> did not find much enthusiasm for implementation. Until there is a great
> increase in demand for link-locals to be supported by browsers, the
> necessary work seems unlikely to be done.
> 
> However, we believe that this demand will eventually arise and therefore
> it's important that the relevant URI syntax is well-defined. There is a
> significant change in this version. Following the discussions a few months
> ago, and after I spent some time looking into the URI parsers in wget and
> Firefox (and a brief look at curl), we propose to drop the "%25" encoding
> of "%". The ABNF in this version, originally suggested by Andrew Cady,
> reflects that proposal. There is extra explanation in the text.
> 
> The other signficant change is that, as Martin Dürst pointed out, we
> also need to formally update the IRI syntax. That was an omission in
> RFC6874.
> 
> We are not asking for action by DISPATCH, but of course we'd welcome
> feedback.
> 
> Regards
>   Brian Carpenter
> On 09-Jul-21 15:46, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Bob Hinden and I are working on an update to RFC 6874, "Representing IPv6 Zone Identifiers in Address Literals and Uniform Resource Identifiers":
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis/
>> There will be an updated version before the cutoff, and there has
>> been quite a bit of discussion already at
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ipv6/.
>> We expect this to be processed in 6MAN, as RFC 6874 was, but we would like to briefly introduce it to DISPATCH/ART Area since clearly it is not just an Internet Area topic. We're also very much aware that it needs to be looked at by the browser community.
>> So this is a request for a short slot to raise awareness. We're not quite sure who would be presenting due to time zone and agenda clash challenges.
>> Please keep us in Cc as we are not on the DISPATCH list.
> 
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