Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft version only)
"Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> Tue, 15 December 2009 19:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft version only)
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+1 in support of this charter As the editor of the ENUM draft on CNAM frankly I was a bit appalled at what I was forced to go through to try and make this work to the satisfaction of some in the RAI directorate and the IESG. The result was nothing if not a total kludge (see the draft) . It would have been much simpler to add the parameter to the SIP URI but there are those that have a layer 10 conviction that only routing information can be in the URI... but then I couldn't use the DATA URI since that was too much like TXT RR's etc. So you have to invent a total kludge PSTN PSTNDATA uri http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-enum-cnam-08 The point here is, BTW, that phone numbers are not going away. Not now not ever, some folks just need to get over that issue ASAP. 99.9999 % of all SIP transactions in the field involve phone numbers and there needs to be simpler and more effective way of expressing and or looking up metadata associated with those identifiers. > -----Original Message----- > From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Bernie Hoeneisen > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:29 PM > To: IETF DISPATCH list > Subject: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft version only) > > Hi, > > As suggested by Mary (DISPATCH co-chair), I wrote up a proposal for an > E2M > charter (draft) for discussion on this mailing list. > > Have fun! > > cheers, > Bernie > > --- > > E.164 to Metadata (E2M) (proposed charter / draft state) > ----------------------- > > Last Modified: 2009-12-15 > > Additional information is available at tools.ietf.org/wg/e2m > [not yet in use] > > > Chair(s): > > * TBA > > Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director(s): > > * Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> > * Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> > > Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Advisor: > > * Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> > > > Mailing Lists: > > General Discussion: e2m@ietf.org [not yet in use] > To Subscribe: e2m-request@ietf.org [not yet in use] > In Body: subscribe > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/e2m/index.html > [not yet in use] > > > Description of Working Group: > > Abstract > > E.164 to Metadata (E2M) will use of the Domain Name System (DNS) > for resolving E.164 numbers into metadata to provide information > about E.164 numbers in cases where E.164 Number to URI Mapping > (ENUM) can not be used. > > > Background > > ENUM provides an identifier mapping mechanism to map E.164 numbers > to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs) using the DNS. > > Thus, ENUM can be used to look up the services associated with an > E.164 number. However, it is controversial whether or not the > result > of an ENUM lookup should always be intended to establish a > communications session using the URI found in the corresponding > Naming Authority Pointer (NAPTR) DNS Resource Record (RR). > > > Problem Statement > > Several proposals for Enumservice registrations do not fulfill the > above mentioned interpretation, which suggests that an ENUM lookup > should always be intended to result in a communications session. > These proposals are therefore virtually locked in the process. > Such proposals include (but are not limited to) Enumservices for > 'cnam' to provide information about the calling party name, > 'unused' to provide a hint that a number is not in use, and > 'send-n' to describe the structure of an ENUM tree. > > Another issue is that the result of an ENUM (E2U) lookup always > needs to be an URI, which unnecessarily complicates simple > mappings. > > The authors of such Enumservice proposals tried to circumvent the > issues by introducing the 'data' URI scheme or inventing > completely > new URI schemes, with limited success however. The main objection > remained that an ENUM lookup should always result in a URI > intended > to establish a communications session. > > Proposal > > The E2M Working Group is chartered to develop a new Dynamic > Delegation Discovery System (DDDS) application E2M, which can be > used with DNS NAPTR RRs for resolving E.164 numbers into metadata. > The resulting metadata can be used (for example) to provide hints > about properties of certain ENUM domains or to provide information > that can be used as attributes of an E.164 number. > > E2M will provide the means for services related to E.164 numbers > that do not fit into the concept of ENUM (E2U), and thus a > way forward for such existing ENUM WG documents in the queue. > > Along with the E2M DDDS application a new IANA registry will be > specified for registration of E2M services. The registration > policy > shall be Expert Review and Specification Required (see RFC 5226), > similarly as specified for Enumservice registrations. > > The E2M specifications shall reuse a much as possible from the > ENUM > DDDS and its IANA registry specification. > > The E2M Working Group may take on further proposals for E2M > service > registrations (e.g. send-n) until the IANA registration for E2M > services is approved by the IESG. > > > Goals and Milestones: > > Aug 2010 Submit Internet Draft(s) for the E2M DDDS application > and > its IANA registry specification > > Dec 2010 Submit 'cnam' and 'unused' as E2M service registrations > (Informational) > > XXX 2011 Close the E2M Working Group (or recharter) > > > Internet-Drafts: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hoeneisen-e164-to-metadata-01 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-enum-unused-04 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-enum-cnam-08 > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bellis-enum-send-n-02) > > > Request For Comments: > > None > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch
- [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft version o… Bernie Hoeneisen
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Cartwright, Kenneth
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Bernie Hoeneisen
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Cartwright, Kenneth
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Cartwright, Kenneth
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Bernie Hoeneisen
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Richard Shockey
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [dispatch] E2M: Proposed Charter (draft versi… Cartwright, Kenneth