Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-crocker-dmarc-sender-01.txt
Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Tue, 28 July 2020 08:19 UTC
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From: Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-crocker-dmarc-sender-01.txt
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On Mon 27/Jul/2020 22:12:17 +0200 Joseph Brennan wrote: >> On 7/27/2020 11:14 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> >>> Let's say I have From: real.bank, and Sender: phisher.example. The >>> above text seems to imply the receiver is looking up >>> _dmarc.phisher.example. Correct? >> > > Avoiding it by redefining From: to serve the former purpose of Sender: and > creating a new Author: to serve the former purpose of From: seems to me to > start us down a long road of new header fields every couple of years. They > are just names. In the pre-DMARC era, we've been mainly using just From:. Sender: is used by Outlook to display "on behalf of" catchphrase, presumably in an attempt to support the historic Sender-Id protocol. Otherwise, Sender: never had traction. DMARC did put an extra accent on From:, thereby projecting the community into a /new territory/, to use Dave's words. Introducing Sender: and Author: can allow to tone down DMARC rules. They were designed presuming that only a few domains, where email is not used for personal correspondence, would use the protocol. For example, messages cannot have multiple authors, and cannot be forwarded with modifications. Somewhat Procrustean for day to day messaging. From: rewriting is an obnoxious hack. Yet it's the only possibility for MLMs, currently. By (re-)introducing those two header fields, we can bevel DMARC rules, paying attention not to pervert the overall shape. Three identifiers allow better tuning than just one. If we do a good job, it won't be necessary to redo it every couple of years... Best Ale --
- [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… Joseph Brennan
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… John Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification fo… Alessandro Vesely