Re: [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment validation from DMARC policy
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 28 July 2020 18:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment validation from DMARC policy
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In article <ab4d6cbc-2666-e46a-0f3f-fffc7e2bab1a@dcrocker.net> you write: >On 7/28/2020 9:59 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >> I think it was you that suggested having the determination of the >> Organizational Domain be its own distinct process. Would that fit into >> the first document, or should that also be something external? > >I'd wish for that to be entirely outside of DMARC, because the issue and >the mechanism are not specific to DMARC. Unfortunately, we all know where to find DBOUND. I suppose now that the smoke has somewhat cleared we might take another run at the PSL problem, trying harder not to boil the ocean. R's, John PS: https://github.com/jrlevine/bound
- [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment validatio… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment valid… ned+dmarc
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment valid… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment valid… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] Separating DMARC alignment valid… John Levine