Re: [dmarc-ietf] Revisiting the Race Condition in draft-crocker-dmarc-sender-01

[John R Levine <[e-mail]>]

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, Dotzero wrote:
> If the people you claim don't want the outcome they have as a result of the
> DMARC policy that they published then maybe they should publish a different
> policy. Have you considered contracting them, any of them, to tell them you
> know their wishes better than they do?

Ericsson publishes p=reject over the objections of their employees, some 
fairly high in the hierarchy, who they subsidize to participate in the 
IETF and its mailing lists.  I've coached some of them on what to say, 
didn't help.

Of course you personally know what DMARC policies mean and what they 
imply.  But every time a list has to rewrite a From line, we have evidence 
that someone else doesn't or at best doesn't care.*

R's,
John

* - I have on excellent authority that when Yahoo published p=reject to 
outsource the costs of their security breaches, Marissa Meyer said she 
knew it would break everyone's mailing lists and she didn't care.