Re: [dmarc-ietf] dns failures in the draft
"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Tue, 01 August 2017 13:36 UTC
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 06:35:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] dns failures in the draft
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Accidentally went off list - bringing it back here for everyone else to see. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> wrote: > On August 1, 2017 2:12:58 AM EDT, "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> > wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Scott Kitterman > ><sklist@kitterman.com> > >wrote: > >> > >> > >> If I understand correctly, the desired behavior is don't reject (5xx) a > >> message due to an ARC related DNS failure. Why not put it that way? > >> It seems like it would be clearer and simpler to specify it that way. > >> > > > > It's more than not 5xx'ing - it's "don't accept a message if you need > > ARC to determine whether it's acceptable if DNS prevents you from > > evaluating ARC". > > > >--Kurt > Right, but I don't think you need to say that explicitly. BTW, this was > off list. Did you intend that? If not, feel free to reply on list. > Scott K
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