Re: [dmarc-ietf] WGLC ARC-16 concern on Section 5.1.2 - cv=fail should sign greedily

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Sat, 11 August 2018 21:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] WGLC ARC-16 concern on Section 5.1.2 - cv=fail should sign greedily
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On 8/11/2018 2:20 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> Sign one" (I think you mean "seal one") remains ambiguous to me, because 
> as Seth said, once I see "cv=fail", I don't care about anything else.  
> Now I have a seal nobody cares about, which means the sealer shouldn't 
> be bothered with generating it, irrespective of what gets fed to the hash.
> 


+1*10**inf.

There has been a persistent desire to find a way to continue to process 
an ARC sequence that is broken, as if that will somehow make it unbroken 
or, at least, /less/ broken.

It won't.

As soon as a broken ARC chain is detected, ARC is -- or at least should 
be -- finished.  ARC-aware not should stop processing ARC for that 
message.  Completely stop.

If there is a clear and compelling counter-argument of clear benefit 
that can be achieved, will be achieved, and is desired by receivers, 
what is it?

d/

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net