[dmarc-ietf] Re: ARC for internal use
Richard Clayton <richard@highwayman.com> Mon, 03 August 2026 11:09 UTC
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Subject: [dmarc-ietf] Re: ARC for internal use
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In message <80bd5efd-05e4-408e-8170-b2d266648709@tana.it>, Alessandro
Vesely <vesely@tana.it> writes
>1) Why does a large infrastructure need to authenticate its
>Authentication-Results? Cryptographic signatures are normally used to protect
>against malicious tampering. However, in many cases where the same ADMD adds
>multiple ARC sets, they are all signed with the same key. Sharing that key
>allows any operator to alter data at will. What threat are the signatures
>intended to address?
"large infrastructures" are complex, have many different systems, some
of which are operated by third parties. Checking for consistency and for
unexpected changes allows for early detection of flaws
>2) If the participating MTAs belong to the same ADMD, what benefit is expected
>from having intermediate MTAs emit their own ARC sets?
early detection of flaws
>3) According to Section 4.1.1. of RFC 8617, the AAR MUST contain the combined
>authres-payload with all of the authentication results from within the
>participating ADMD. In some cases of multiple ARC sets, all AARs contain the
>same data (including remote IP address). In other cases, each MTA carries out
>and reports its own checks as if it were a different ADMD, despite using the
>same d=. Which behavior is consistent with the specification?
I advise you not to care and for no-one else to bother to work out the
answer.
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richard @ highwayman . com "Nothing seems the same
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- [dmarc-ietf] ARC for internal use Alessandro Vesely
- [dmarc-ietf] Re: ARC for internal use Richard Clayton