Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC threat analysis needed

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Tue, 21 July 2020 00:58 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:58:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC threat analysis needed
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 1:42 AM Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> wrote:

> On Sun 19/Jul/2020 20:13:46 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:14 AM Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it>
> wrote:
> >
> >>> Still unresolved, IMHO, is Dave's point about whether the RFC5322.From
> >>> domain truly matters.
> >>
> >> While the opinions of big players are relevant, you yourself mentioned
> >> that they tend to follow DMARC design. >
> >
> > Sorry, I said what?
>
>
>      Google strikes me as the kind of place that would make a decision
>      about what to show users based on data, so I was wondering if they
>      have any, because I seem to remember them talking about this back
>      when DMARC was in development.
>      [
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/P6-4mvdCrRVXEz6DQXGunBsRKqA/]
>

When I said "back when DMARC was in development", that meant Gmail had
already done what I described, not that they were inspired to do what DMARC
said.  Gmail was part of that effort, in fact.

So no, I didn't say "they tend to follow DMARC design".  The order is
backwards.

-MSK