Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less kludge alternative to draft-kucherawy-dmarc-rcpts
Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Thu, 17 November 2016 14:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less kludge alternative to draft-kucherawy-dmarc-rcpts
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On 11/16/2016 1:09 PM, Terry Zink wrote: >> This means ARC will be needed not only for mailing lists which modify the header or >> body of an email, but for EVERY mailing list and EVERY forwarded email or EVERYTIME >> the recipient has been modified and the email leaves the ADMD boundary. From a >> DMARC point of view DKIM will not be needed anymore because it has now the same >> function as SPF - verifiying the origin of direct emails - and SPF is easier to implement >> for most administrators. > > +1. > > It basically (almost) turns DKIM into SPF. That's not that appealing a solution. For exclusive policies (SPF -ALL), you really don't need DKIM, DMARC or ARC for that matter since the receiver (at least ours) will never accept the payload anyway, i.e. it never gets to the SMTP "DATA" state. SPF does not require you to accept the mail for the hard reject policy (-ALL). -- HLS
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Paul Rock
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… ned+dmarc
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Vladimir Dubrovin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Rolf E. Sonneveld
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… John R Levine
- [dmarc-ietf] DKIM ONLY PLEASE! (was: Re: [ietf-dk… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Vladimir Dubrovin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Terry Zink
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Dave Crocker
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… John R Levine
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Terry Zink
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Michael Storz
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Terry Zink
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Hector Santos
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Hector Santos
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Vladimir Dubrovin
- Re: [dmarc-ietf] [ietf-dkim] a slightly less klud… Scott Kitterman