Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-crocker-dmarc-author-01.txt

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Tue, 28 July 2020 11:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-crocker-dmarc-author-01.txt
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On 7/28/2020 4:00 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Tue 28/Jul/2020 12:37:32 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote:
>> On 7/28/2020 12:26 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>>> Receivers can evaluate the Author: domain just like they would do if 
>>> it were the From: domain. 
>>
>> So you want to define DMARC as applying to both the From: field and 
>> the Author: field?  That will defeat the benefit intended for the 
>> Author: field.
> 
> Yes.  In case of conflict, evaluation of Author: has to be omitted.  For 
> example, Author: fields containing multiple mailboxes are not considered.

1. I don't understand the details you have in mind that would make this 
useful.

2. Again, this seems to defeat the purpose of having the Author field.



> (OT-BTW, DMARC spec will have to consider From: fields with multiple 
> mailboxes, since they're allowed by RFC 5322.  Should Sender:, in such 
> cases, have a domain aligned with one of those?)

My understanding is that DMARC does not work for From: fields with 
multiple domain names.  In that regard, that's another change to the 
From: field that DMARC imposes.



>>> As a new field, Author: doesn't wear a reliable-id trophy, hence 
>>> receivers may refrain to apply policy dispositions.  However, the 
>>> result of the evaluation, conveyed through aggregate report, can tell 
>>> MLMs if rewriting From: was necessary.
>>
>> How, exactly?
> 
> 
> Author: and Sender: domains can be included in aggregate reports along 
> with the From: one.  The policy_evaluated can also include more items, 
> specifying which evaluations pass or fail.

It will probably help for you to supply detailed specification of the 
changes to DMARC's reporting, so people can assess its likely costs and 
benefits more concretely.

d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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