Re: [DMM] Call for adoption: draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01

[Alexandru Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 24/04/2015 21:30, Behcet Sarikaya a écrit :
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>> When the car arrives home it connects to the WiFi available in
>> home, thus handing over from LTE.  This is a sold use-case at e.g.
>> Tesla.  The WiFi hotspot can be the one deployed in-house,
>> in-garage, or the WiFi offered by the electrical recharging
>> stations.
>>
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> Even if the is the case then 3GPP developed a lot of things on
> accessing non-3GPP networks like Wi-Fi. I think line-id is used
> instead of IMSI?

I dont know.  Maybe line-id should be suggested as an MN-ID as well.

But I can tell that vehicles will not always use the 3GPP-defined means 
to connect to WiFi.  And the WiFi operator is different than the 3GPP 
operator, and thus a different MN-ID form.

The MN-ID that I consider in vehicles is the one used for Mobile IP. 
3GPP deployments I confront with dont use Mobile IP.

Mobile IP offers a mobility solution completely independent of the 
access networks.

Alex

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> Behcet
>> Other manufacturers propose scenarios in which car's WiFi antenna
>> switches from being an in-car hotspot to being a Client to outside
>> wifi.
>>
>> Some consider 802.11p (wifi for vehicles) to be deployed along
>> highways and cars to perform handovers between these 802.11p
>> access points.
>>
>> Next time on highway scan for WiFi - one is surprised by the
>> number of hotspots driving around, even though often they use
>> portals.
>>
>> There are many commercially considered scenarios involving WiFi
>> handovers for cars.
>>
>> Alex
>>
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>>> Behcet
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>>>>
>>>> Newer models will feature IPv6 in addition to IPv4, WiFi
>>>> handover from LTE to house's hotspot, continuous sessions, and
>>>> over-the-air software update for cheap upgradeability to
>>>> future generation 5G and beyond.
>>>>
>>>> In this context it is hard to imagine IMSI will be there for a
>>>> long time in a given car, and a more permanent identifier is
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> To Raj - is LTE considering other kinds of identifiers for
>>>> access control (other than IMSI) for vehicular environments,
>>>> like V2X?
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Behcet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Jouni & Dapeng
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4/1/2015, 8:02 AM, Jouni Korhonen kirjoitti:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This emails starts a two week call for the I-D
>>>>>>>> draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01 to confirm the
>>>>>>>> aadoption s a DMM WG document. The call ends April 15th
>>>>>>>> EOB PST.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Express your support or opposition to the mailing
>>>>>>>> list. During the IETF92 meeting we got 7 voices for
>>>>>>>> the adoption so at least the same amount supporting
>>>>>>>> emails should be expected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Jouni & Dapeng
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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