Re: [DMM] Requirements on cmm

Hi,

I do not see a reason for this requirement. Give me an example how node/function virtualization would be visible e.g. at the IP mobility protocol level. Many vendors already today virtualize their elements (and call it cloud or something semantically equivalently foggy stuff) and that has not had any impact on the signaling protocols they use on the level of the infrastructure they virtualize.

- Jouni

On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:28 PM, <karagian@cs.utwente.nl> <karagian@cs.utwente.nl> wrote:

> Hi Behcet, Hi all,
>  
> Regarding the cloud like architecture use case, the requirement that could be used for this purpose can be the following one:
>  
> "The DMM solution MAY have the ability to be applied in virtualized and/or cloud like archietctures."
>  
> Motivation:
>  
> Currently, there is a trend to implement more and more functions of a mobile communication network in software, e.g., for signal and protocol processing. This enables the use of cloud computing infrastructures as processing platforms for signal and protocol processing of mobile communication networks, in particular for current (4G) and future (5G) generation cellular networks. This can only be realized if, among others, efficient DMM solutions are supported by the cloud computing architectures.
>  
> Best regards,
> Georgios
> Van: Behcet Sarikaya [sarikaya2012@gmail.com]
> Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 22:20
> To: Karagiannis, G. (EWI)
> Cc: dmm@ietf.org
> Onderwerp: Requirements on cmm
> 
> Hi Georgios,
> 
> Can you please suggest some requirements on cmm in DMM?
> 
> I think that it would be relevant and useful to DMM while requirements
> are still being discussed.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Behcet
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:52 PM,  <karagian@cs.utwente.nl> wrote:
> > Hi Behcet,
> >
> > I would like to mention that I find this draft useful due to the following reasons.
> >
> > Currently, there is a trend to implement more and more functions of a mobile communication network in software, e.g., for signal and protocol processing. This enables the use of cloud computing infrastructures as processing platforms for signal and protocol processing of mobile communication networks, in particular for current (4G) and future (5G) generation cellular networks.
> > This can of course only be realized if, among others, efficient mobility management solutions are supported like the ones that are in line with what DMM would like to specify.
> > I think therefore, that the DMM WG could also consider the distributed mobility management support in cloud computing like architectures as a possible use case.
> >
> > Regarding your draft I have some comments:
> > The draft mentions some limitation of the existing mobility management solutions in cloud-like architectures. However, these limitations are not clearly focussing on the requirements specified in http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-02.txt.
> > I think that this will make the desciption of the limitations clearer!
> > Moreover, it might also be useful to show describe these limitations by using as use as context a generic framework, like the one introduced in http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-dmm-framework-gap-analysis-05.txt and/or
> > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-liebsch-dmm-framework-analysis-00.txt.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Georgios
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Van: dmm-bounces@ietf.org [dmm-bounces@ietf.org] namens Behcet Sarikaya [sarikaya2012@gmail.com]
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 23 oktober 2012 21:51
> > To: dmm@ietf.org
> > Onderwerp: [DMM] New Version Notification for   draft-sarikaya-dmm-cloud-mm-00.txt
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have submitted a new draft on Mobility Management Protocols for
> > Cloud-Like Architectures, for details see below.
> >
> > Chairs: please reserve a slot in IETF 85 session if possible.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Behcet
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-sarikaya-dmm-cloud-mm-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Behcet Sarikaya and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Filename:        draft-sarikaya-dmm-cloud-mm
> > Revision:        00
> > Title:           Mobility Management Protocols for Cloud-Like Architectures
> > Creation date:   2012-10-15
> > WG ID:           Individual Submission
> > Number of pages: 11
> > URL:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sarikaya-dmm-cloud-mm-00.txt
> > Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-dmm-cloud-mm
> > Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-dmm-cloud-mm-00
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    Telecommunication networks are being virtualized and are moving into
> >    the cloud networks.  This brings the need to redesign the mobility
> >    protocols of Mobile and Proxy Mobile IPv6.  This document defines
> >    mobility management protocols for virtualized networks.  Control and
> >    data plane separation is achieved by separating Home Agent and Mobile
> >    Access Gateway functionalities into the control and data planes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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