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Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Thu, 09 October 2025 17:34 UTC

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I don't have a good feel for DNSSD.  I trust Ted on that one ;-)

On 09.10.2025 18:31, Chris Box wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 at 17:49, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>
>     Don't forget DNSSD.
>
>
> I was about to respond to Eliot along the same lines.
>
> Eliot, where do you see DNSSD's normal work slotting into your list of 
> activities?
>
> We've also had a couple of drafts that potentially could have been in 
> DNSOP but community interest was much greater in DNSSD:
>
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-multi-qtypes/
>     (ready to ship)
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eastlake-dnsop-rfc2931bis-sigzero/
>     (in 123 six people expressed an interest in starting)
>
>
> This tells me that whatever structure we define, it needs to attract 
> the right people to the right groups. Very clear naming would help. 
> However I don't have a proposal to bring to the table.
>
> Chris

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