Re: [dns-privacy] ADoT signalling

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Mon, 04 November 2019 17:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] ADoT signalling
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On 11/4/2019 7:12 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
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> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:26 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr
> <mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr>> wrote:
>
>     On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 05:33:34PM -0500,
>      John Levine <johnl@taugh.com <mailto:johnl@taugh.com>> wrote
>      a message of 14 lines which said:
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>     > I thought it might be useful to make a list of possible ways to
>     signal
>     > that a server offers ADoT:
>
>     I would like also a discussion on whether signaling is 1) good 2)
>     necessary.
>
>     Even if you get a signal, the reality may be out-of-sync with the
>     signal, for instance because of a problem on the server side (remember
>     AAAAs published without checking IPv6 connectivity works) or on the
>     client side (port 853 blocked).
>
>
> I'm less worried about the latter because I would expect recursive
> resolvers to generally be operated by people who are able to establish
> their port 853 status.


Note that port 853 is a convention. Servers could trivially run multiple
services over port 443, and demux based on the ALPN. I suppose that if
we see a lot blockage of port 853, servers will just do that -- run on
port 443, demux based on ALPN="DoT"...

-- Christian Huitema