Re: [dns-privacy] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-peterson-dot-dhcp-00.txt

nusenu <nusenu-lists@riseup.net> Sat, 27 April 2019 19:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-peterson-dot-dhcp-00.txt
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Thomas Peterson:
> In a recent discussion in the DoH mailing list around a draft that 
> describes resolver discovery, Martin Thomson made the suggestion[0] 
> to use DHCP and RA options instead to transmit both DNS over HTTP 
> resolver addresses, but more relevant to this WG also DNS over TLS 
> endpoints as well. I have published draft-peterson-dot-dhcp, which 
> describe the relevant DHCPv4, DHCPv6, and RA options to support 
> this.
[...]
> 0: 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/doh/A2YthHjFwwwpC3d0MrOm1-syH48

Thanks for starting this I-D.

from the I-D:
> Length:  Length of the DNS Servers list in octects
> 
> DNS Servers:  One or more IPv4 addresses of DNS servers

The I-D currently only contains IP addresses, not names as
proposed by Martin:

To quote Martin Thomson's email:
> 2. We add a field to DHCP and RA that carries the "DoT resolver".
> When this is present, the client resolves this name using the
> resolver.  This resolution is unsecured.  The client then connects to
> the resulting IP address and validates the certificate it presents
> using this name.  This enables easier deployment of DoT because a
> certificate for a name is easier to get than an IP certificate (it
> also enables use of 1918 address and the like).

So I'd suggest to have multiple fields:
- IP address (optional)
- name (for PKIX verification) (optional)
- SPKI pins? (optional)

I'd like to see a single document covering DoT and DoH
DHCP/RA options (as Martin Thomson suggested) 
instead of two documents doing the same thing
for each protocol separately.

kind regards,
nusenu



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