Re: [dns-privacy] ADoT deployment at the root

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 31 October 2019 19:27 UTC

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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:27:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] ADoT deployment at the root
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:06 PM Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:

>
> There are gazillions of layer-9+ problems around the introduction of new
> or different distribution mechanisms at the root for serving root zone
> data. Not least of these are the interminable ICANN consultations that
> inevitably have to take place for anything remotely related to the root.
>
> Some of those problems will also apply to ADoT deployment at "busy" TLDs
> and their DNS service providers.
>
>
I think the point John Levine was making earlier relates to this, though.
If the root zone is signed, it is small enough to keep a copy locally in
any reasonable cache.  That means many caching resolvers can avoid using
DoT on queries routed to the root by using AXFR instead,  to the servers
mentioned in https://www.dns.icann.org/services/axfr/ or similar servers
hosted elsewhere.  Asking that those AXFR-suitable servers support DoT
seems a much more tractable proposition and it results in the right thing.

I may have misunderstood John, of course, but that's the point of what I
understood him to be saying.

regards,

Ted