Re: NGtrans - DNSext joint meeting, call for participation

Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Sun, 29 July 2001 05:52 UTC

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From: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com
To: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
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Subject: Re: NGtrans - DNSext joint meeting, call for participation
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> Mark.Andrews@nominum.com writes:
> > there is no requirement to re-sign every record to achieve
> > your 1 day expiry.  Just change the zone key whenever you change
> > zone data and have a 1 day expiry on the zone key's signature.
> 
> No. If you maintain the validity of signatures on old records, you're
> allowing the attack to succeed. If you don't maintain the validity of
> those signatures, you have to immediately sign those records again.
> 
> Please withdraw your claim.

	Dan,
	     your claim is that you have to re-sign every record in
	a zone daily to achieve a 1 day replay window.  I'm stating
	that you can achieve the same protection without re-signing
	every record daily.

	Pre change:
	example.com KEY alpha
	example.com SIG KEY expire=200107292257 (1 day)
	host.example.com A 1.2.3.4
	host.example.com SIG A expire=200108272257 (30 days)

	Post change:
	example.com KEY beta
	example.com SIG KEY expire=200107072258 (1 day)
	host.example.com A 1.2.3.5
	host.example.com SIG A expire=200108272258 (30 days)

	Please explain how you can verify
	host.example.com A 1.2.3.4
        host.example.com SIG A expire=200108272257
	after 200107292257.

	Mark
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