Re: [dnsext] Sending different DNS responses based on perceived proximity
Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> Fri, 29 January 2010 12:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Sending different DNS responses based on perceived proximity
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:39:54 +0000
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On 29 Jan 2010, at 11:52, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > But I do not think this issue is relevant: the IETF does not care > *how* the name server decided to reply 203.0.113.1 or > 198.51.100.198. In the same way that RFC 2616 does not say *how* the > Web server decides to 301 redirect and to whom. We should stick with > protocol issues: how to carry information from one machine to another, > not how what the servers decide to reply. Indeed Stephane. However this discussion began with a draft that suggested clients send IP addressing info with their queries. If the draft is to go further -- I hope it doesn't -- it will very likely attract other cruft. For example hooks for additional data such as hop count to help the authoritative server do its trickery. This sort of cruft would mean more protocol issues. Earlier comments about the draft suggested adding other data for client identification. So it's not unreasonable to mention other metrics for proximity now because of the protocol issues that would be needed to accommodate them. ie What sorts of proximity are meant and how would they be represented in some sort of EDNS query. What those metrics are (or could be) doesn't matter in that context.
- Re: [dnsext] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edn… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [dnsext] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edn… Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [dnsext] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edn… Alex Bligh
- [dnsext] a definition of consistency Jim Reid
- [dnsext] Market forces and protocol engineering Jim Reid
- [dnsext] mangling DNS responses based on proximity Jim Reid
- Re: [dnsext] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edn… Colm MacCárthaigh
- [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Colm MacCárthaigh
- [dnsext] Re: mangling DNS responses based on prox… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [dnsext] Re: mangling DNS responses based on prox… Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [dnsext] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-vandergaast-edn… Alex Bligh
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Jim Reid
- [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [dnsext] Sending different DNS responses based on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [dnsext] Sending different DNS responses base… Jim Reid
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency George Barwood
- [dnsext] Reflection of the resolver's IP address … Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Ray.Bellis
- [dnsext] Re: Going through broken proxies (Was: a… Ray.Bellis
- [dnsext] Going through broken proxies (Was: a def… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Jim Reid
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Ondřej Surý
- Re: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Nicholas Weaver
- RE: [dnsext] Re: a definition of consistency Everhart, Craig