Re: [dnsext] Progress on moving the mailing list

Andrew Sullivan <> Fri, 01 October 2010 00:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnsext] Progress on moving the mailing list
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:56:37 -0400
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The only reason is the IETF convention. I don't expect namedroppers to disappear: when dnsext is finally clubbed to death, we can revive the namedroppers list. But I'm willing to ask the secretariat for an exception if people feel strongly. 

Andrew Sullivan

On 2010-09-30, at 17:48, Ted Hardie <>; wrote:

> Howdy,
> Any strong reason it shouldn't be ""?  That list
> name has a lot of history behind it, and having a consistent thread of
> conversation connected to the name, if not its host, seems to me worth it.
> An alias from to could be kept for
> those wanting the WG Name pointer.
> Full disclosure:  I was briefly the list monkey at SRI who kept
> namedroppers@sri-nic
> up, and I am likely being nostalgic.
> Ted
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Andrew Sullivan <>; wrote:
>> Dear colleagues,
>> Some time ago, we said we were going to move the WG mailing list from
>> to  This sort of fell off
>> the radar as it looked like the WG was running out of things to do & I
>> absurdly thought we might actually wind up or go back to sleep or
>> something.  But with the rechartering in motion, it seemed to me we
>> ought to make good on this.
>> We've started the process, so the list has been created.
>> At the moment, it has no members, and if you post to it your message
>> will be moderated (and then we'll reject it).
>> Over the coming period, we will subscribe all the existing
>> namedroppers members to the list.  You will receive a
>> message when this happens.  If you don't want to receive dnsext mail
>> messages, then please unsubscribe then, or unsubscribe from
>> namedroppers now.
>> We will ask the operators of the namedroppers list to put an alias
>> forwarding messaages to namedroppers instead to the dnsext list, and
>> not to accept new subscriptions to namedroppers.  You won't get
>> duplicate messages during the change over, and you won't lose mail to
>> the list.  There will probably be a short period when new messages to
>> the list are disallowed, and if you have filters that are using the
>> exiting namedroppers headers, you will need to update them.
>> I will post another announcement in the future with firm dates for the
>> cutover.  I will give people ample notice of the cutover date so that
>> they may update their filters.  In the meantime, the mail address will
>> be and the RFC 2369 headers will follow the pattern of
>> all the other lists hosted in the IETF mail infrastructure.
>> Best regards,
>> A
>> --
>> Andrew Sullivan
>> Shinkuro, Inc.