Re: [DNSOP] Further observationon AS112 ipv4 cull

"William F. Maton Sotomayor" <wmaton@ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca> Thu, 04 August 2011 19:49 UTC

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From: "William F. Maton Sotomayor" <wmaton@ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Further observationon AS112 ipv4 cull
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Warren Kumari wrote:

> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:08 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor wrote:
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>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, George Michaelson wrote:
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>>> I would support this latter approach William: I think we should seek WG adoption of three drafts
>>>
>>> 1) the michaelson as112-ipv6 draft, aiming for at least one 01 spin to a small set of non-controversial V6 delegations, moving to WGLC and IANA asap.
>>>
>>> 2) your as112-ipv4-cull draft, but shorn of the operational aspects, likewise rapid movement to WGLC and IANA
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>> For the consideration of members of DNSOP to adopt as a working group item, -01 of my draft has been submitted.
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>>> 3) an AS112 operational draft more in the nature of 6304/5/bis
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>> This one will follow a little later, I suspect more expanded than before.
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>>> I would like to ask for WG adoption of AS112-IPv6 on that basis.
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>> +1, especially since some as112 natives are getting restless.
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> I made a suggestion at the mic in the f2f meeting, and then on the as112 operators list -- there seems to be some support for it there, so I'm now doing it onlist?
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> How about simply making AS112 omniscient (know the answers for *all* space)? As decisions to have AS112 answer / not answer for zones get made, delegations can simply be added and removed.

As I said in as112-ops, it's a bold suggestion with which I have no 
objections to on the surface - haven't yet synthesised (er, sorry) deeper 
thought over though.  But then I'm not a root-server nor .arpa operator.

> Obviously this would require synthesizing answers[0], and these servers cannot be used for answering recursive queries (and a few other minor issues) but this will (as far as I can see) solve the lameness / coordination issues...

So I wonder if a draft were written suggesting AS112 omniscince, whether 
the discussion in draft-iab-dns-synthesis-concerns might be worth looking 
through to include.

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> [0]: Yes, yes i *did* feel dirty writing that?.
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>> Thanks,
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>> wfms
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