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Re: [DNSOP] hostnames vs domain names vs RFC1034/1035 vs RFC2818 vs Wikipedia etc

Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> Fri, 08 April 2016 11:10 UTC

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From: Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com>
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To: Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] hostnames vs domain names vs RFC1034/1035 vs RFC2818 vs Wikipedia etc
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:49 PM, Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com> wrote:
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> But it's good to see a clear statement from 1987 about desirability of supporting alternate protocols (although they use CLASS for that).  Maybe onion should have used a new CLASS :)
>  

See draft-sullivan-dns-class-useless (which will be discussed in the WG meeting in a few hours) for some analysis of why that’s impractical.


Suzanne

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