Re: [DNSOP] no longer about Re: EU ISO-3166 code (was Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-01.txt)

I agree with Ed on this one. If you skip everything that everyone can't completely agree on, you'll wind up with a content-free, and useless, document. 

You don't need to go into a -lot- of detail, but enough to acknowledge the scope of what's being discussed. 

                -Bill

> On May 4, 2015, at 06:26, Edward Lewis <edward.lewis@icann.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/4/15, 7:48, "Andrew Sullivan" <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 11:45:09AM +0000, Edward Lewis wrote:
>>> ccTLD and gTLD, but those are examples.  ("into ccTLDs, gTLDs, and other
>>> categories;")[0]
>> 
>> I'm not opposed to the "and other categories", but the truth is that
>> anyone who cares about DNS never hears about those other categories.
> 
> FWIW, I've heard of them. ;)
> 
>> Even around ICANN policy discussions everything that isn't a ccTLD is
>> treated as a subclass of gTLD.
> 
> Warning, philosophical content follows.
> 
> The reason I see documents skew to uselessness is when they lack the
> appropriate level of precision.  Either they don't go far enough or go to
> far.  If a document is high-level, then it should shove all detail off
> into referenced material.
> 
> I suspect the terminology document is not high-level.  It is providing new
> material, at least in spots - definitions for terms used that are not
> defined elsewhere accessible.  So here, even though the terms of art are
> not always in wide-spread use, this is the one place someone seeking a
> definition would go.  As far as "consensus" - the document ought to
> capture multiple perspectives, not just the "pop culture."
> 
> For this reason I feel that it is important to acknowledge that there are
> other categories while not enumerating them.  (The roster of categories
> may change over time.)  If we don't do this, someone will, in 25 years say
> "but RFC 10345 says TLDs are gTLDs and ccTLDs, it doesn't list zTLDs, so
> zTLDs are special."
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