Re: [DNSOP] Agenda for IETF100

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Fri, 10 November 2017 19:04 UTC

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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:59:28 +0800
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
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Can confirm, as can anyone willing to go to an Adobe Connect archive. For the curious:

https://participate.icann.org/p6u03rimy92/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal

The discussion on Ethereum by Leonard Tan, an Ethereum developer, starts at 00:31:00. Paul’s question is at 00:42:16. From the transcript:

>> PAUL:  PAUL, IETF.  LET'S SAY IETF GETS THE DOMAINS IETF IN THIS NAMING SYSTEM AND WE PAY OUR FEES FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.  EVERYBODY USES THE SITE.  AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE FORGET TO PAY AND THE DOMAIN FALLS BACK INTO THE POOL AND SOMEBODY ELSE REGISTERS IT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE OR WHO THEY ARE.  NOW I GO TO A COURT SYSTEM.  I GET SOME LEGAL OPINION SAYING I OWN THIS TRADEMARK AND NOW I WANT TO GET THIS DOMAIN BACK.  IS THERE ANY WAY FOR ME TO GET THIS DOMAIN BACK?
>>LEONARD TAN:  SO RIGHT NOW, THE ENS INDUSTRY, YOU CAN CHANGE IT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES FOUR OUT OF SEVEN PEOPLE.  MOST OF THEM ARE ETHEREUM DEVELOPERS.  AND IT IS A CONSENSUS OF THEM TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.  SO IT IS POSSIBLE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO.

Regards,
-drc

On Nov 10, 2017, 10:47 PM +0800, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>;, wrote:
> The ENS developer said so in response to my question.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 10, 2017, at 19:55, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>; wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 05:58:13PM +0530,
> > Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>; wrote
> > a message of 29 lines which said:
> >
> > > It takes 4 out of 7 geeks to bypass the blockchain in case of
> > > emergency, court orders or kneecaps.
> > >
> > > According to the presentation held at ICANN60
> >
> > Well, if someone at ICANN said so, someone is wrong (or, at the
> > minimum, over-simplificator).
> >
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