Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-10
Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 19 October 2022 15:27 UTC
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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:27:27 -0400
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To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Cc: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>, Ron Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com>, gen-art@ietf.org, dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-10
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I agree with Warren on this, as the chair he and I had several discussions sorting out this situation, and Mr Hoffman did the work in cleaning up the IANA registrations. tim On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:13 AM Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 7:22 AM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> > wrote: > >> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Ron Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 1. whis is this an informational RFC and not a standard track RFC. >> >> That's a reasonable question with a simple answer: because the WG changed >> its mind on what the status of this protocol should be. RFC 5933 describes >> a national standard that is thinly deployed. At the time, it was necessary >> to have the protocol on standards track; now it no longer is required. >> > > One or two people had also poked me off-list, asking if the process allows > for an informational document to update a non-informational document. This > appears to be fully allowed by process (and I had checked before advancing > the document). > I checked on a few documents which Update other documents, and here is a > selection of prior instances where this was done. > > RFC2026 - "The Internet Standards Process -- Revision 3" (BCP) was updated > by both > RFC7841 - "RFC Streams, Headers, and Boilerplates" (Informational) > and RFC3669 - "Guidelines for Working Groups on Intellectual Property > Issues" (Informational) > > > RFC9120 - "Nameservers for the Address and Routing Parameter Area ("arpa") > Domain" (Info) updates RFC3172 - "Management Guidelines \& Operational > Requirements for the Address and Routing Parameter Area Domain > ("arpa") (Best Current Practice) > > > RFC7722 - "Multi-Topology Extension for the Optimized Link State Routing > Protocol Version 2 (OLSRv2)" (Exp) updates both RFC7188 - "Optimized Link > State Routing Protocol Version 2 (OLSRv2) and MANET Neighborhood Discovery > Protocol (NHDP) Extension TLVs" (Standards Track) > and RFC7631 - "TLV Naming in the Mobile Ad Hoc Network (MANET) Generalized > Packet/Message Format" (Standards Track) > > > RFC7419 - "Common Interval Support in Bidirectional Forwarding > Detection" (Informational) updates RFC5880 - "Bidirectional Forwarding > Detection (BFD)" (Standards Track). > > W > > >> 2. What is requested from IANA. ths text you wrote and I copied is not a >> directive to IANA that is clear >> >> You are correct that the IANA Considerations section is quite unclear, >> and needs to be clarified before the IESG considers it. >> >> --Paul Hoffman >> > >
- [DNSOP] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dns… Roni Even via Datatracker
- Re: [DNSOP] Genart last call review of draft-ietf… Макаренко Борис
- Re: [DNSOP] Genart last call review of draft-ietf… Ron Even
- Re: [DNSOP] Genart last call review of draft-ietf… Boris Makarenko
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Ron Even
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draf… Boris Makarenko