Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit
Bob Harold <rharolde@umich.edu> Thu, 21 November 2019 13:44 UTC
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:44:18 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:19 AM Petr Špaček <petr.spacek@nic.cz> wrote: > On 21. 11. 19 9:49, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> writes: > > > >>> I think our simplest and most appealing option would be to treat EDE > >>> exactly like any existing EDNS Option (i.e. set the TC bit). > >> > >> For the record, I'm just fine with this. People that *want* a separate > >> signal should speak up please and voice their reasons why having just > >> the TC bit is unacceptable too. > >> > >> We need to come to a decision about this, and that will require everyone > >> with an opinion to chime in. > > > > Actually, I forgot that one of the primary reasons for separating it was > > that EDE can go forward and the need for TC/DP bits can be debated > > longer if need be. > > > > So... anyone that thinks something like the DP bit is needed *and* > > should be tied to EDE should speak up. Please. > > I will provide the opposite opinion: > DP bit is not *needed* for EDE. > > If I'm proven wrong in future we can specify DP bit in a separate document > and update EDE RFC. > > (Also I've changed my mind when it comes to TC bit - now I believe that > normal DNS processing is fine and EDE does not need a special case.) > > -- > Petr Špaček @ CZ.NIC > Thanks for the discussion and the idea of a separate bit. My opinion: Keep TC bit in EDE and move it forward. I would prefer not to create a DP flag bit yet, until actual measurements tell us that it makes a measurable difference - let's wait until EDE is deployed and someone can measure the occurrence of truncating just EDE. Then we can discuss if the percentage is worth the complexity. -- Bob Harold
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- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Eric Orth
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- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Paul Vixie
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