Re: [DNSOP] draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-00.txt

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Wed, 06 April 2016 17:52 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-00.txt
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Cheap, easy to implement, and tractable in existing systems are very
attractive properties.

-G


On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 02:33:28PM -0300,
>  George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote
>  a message of 38 lines which said:
>
>> I meant a form of signing, which would be a strong signal of
>> repudiation of the label as well as exclusion of other holders of
>> the label, so that it could be a first-class signal "not in the DNS"
>> -> look in another internet-name lookup mechanism.
>
> The proposal in my draft is technically trivial and easy to implement
> (politically, it is another matter) because it relies only on existing
> techniques.
>
> Your proposal is interesting but would require the development of
> protocol changes and their implementation.