Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: I-D Action: draft-bortzmeyer-dname-root-00.txt]

Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org> Wed, 06 April 2016 17:32 UTC

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Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 14:32:31 -0300
From: Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Stephane,

At 2016-04-06 13:37:15 -0300
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:

> This draft is a result of a proposal I made in Yokohama
> <https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-dnsop-8.pdf>
> where it seems it received some interest.
> 
> I do not ask to discuss it during our DNSOP meetings (I sent it too
> late for that and there are still too many TODOs). But it is part of
> the RFC 6761 discussion that we all love spending our time with :-)

Hm, interesting.

One minor possible concern is with .ONION, where I assume that the Tor
operators would prefer as little leakage as possible. It seems that a
DNAME to EMPTY.AS112.ARPA which goes to an unmanaged anycast network
might be an increase in leakage. (It may also be that if
EMPTY.AS112.ARPA is already cached that it would be a decrease in
leakage, since no additional query would go to the AS112 servers?)

I admit that even in the worst case it is probably not a LOT more
leakage, but I think that it is some? Or am I misunderstanding?

Cheers,

--
Shane