[DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit
Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Thu, 21 November 2019 06:53 UTC
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Subject: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit
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During the first DNSOP meeting at IETF 106 there was a discussion that had multiple opinions about what to do with setting the TC bit for EDE information, which is generally supplemental. During my presentation I mentioned that an associate of Viktor suggested creating a new bit, and during the conversation there was discrepancy about whether or not that was a good idea. Brian Dickson then proposed that the new bit only modify future clients that wanted to use it, thus leaving the EDE spec setting the TC bit. A future bit could be defined that would indicate that only supplemental information was dropped. My proposal for EDE is that we follow this train of thought, which seems to be the widest idea accepted from what I could tell. TLDR for things to do: 1. We have the EDE document say to set the TC bit (which it already did) 2. We create a new document that defines an extra bit for indicating that the dropped information was supplemental and didn't contain operationally important information. If this sounds like a good compromise, great! If you would like to propose an alternative, great! do so! In the mean time, I threw together a quick ID for the new bit as well: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hardaker-dnsop-drop/ -- Wes Hardaker USC/ISI
- [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC b… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Wes Hardaker
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- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Eric Orth
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Michael StJohns
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Puneet Sood
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Ralf Weber
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Michael StJohns
- Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the … Wes Hardaker