Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-14.txt> (A Common Operational Problem in DNS Servers - Failure To Communicate.) to Best Current Practice

[Warren Kumari <[e-mail]>]

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Hi there authors,

During the IETF LC Stephane supported the document (an important
document, worthy of publication), but noted that:
1: the document only deals with auth servers and that it should be
more explicit and
2: that Section 3 is confusing, and that Matt had provided some text
which helps make this better --
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/_Nq8PAVOapIVal2BS7P-jlWmnuc

Having reread section 3 (and Matt's suggestions) I agree with Stephane
on both of these - I also think that addressing these should be quite
easy (I don't think it requires a "restructuring"), especially as Matt
has provided suggested text...
I'd appreciate if you can address these, and SHOUT LOUDLY once you've
had a chance to do so (or let me know how else you'd like to handle
this).

I also think that it would be worth adding an Acknowledgements section...

Thanks,
W



On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:00 PM The IESG <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> The IESG has received a request from the Domain Name System Operations WG
> (dnsop) to consider the following document: - 'A Common Operational Problem
> in DNS Servers - Failure To Communicate.'
>   <draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue-14.txt> as Best Current Practice
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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>
> Abstract
>
>
>    The DNS is a query / response protocol.  Failing to respond to
>    queries, or responding incorrectly, causes both immediate operational
>    problems and long term problems with protocol development.
>
>    This document identifies a number of common kinds of queries to which
>    some servers either fail to respond or else respond incorrectly.
>    This document also suggests procedures for zone operators to apply to
>    identify and remediate the problem.
>
>    The document does not look at the DNS data itself, just the structure
>    of the responses.
>
>
>
>
> The file can be obtained via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue/
>
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-no-response-issue/ballot/
>
>
> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
>
>
> The document contains these normative downward references.
> See RFC 3967 for additional information:
>     rfc6840: Clarifications and Implementation Notes for DNS Security (DNSSEC) (Proposed Standard - IETF stream)
>     rfc3225: Indicating Resolver Support of DNSSEC (Proposed Standard - IETF stream)
>     rfc7766: DNS Transport over TCP - Implementation Requirements (Proposed Standard - IETF stream)
>     rfc4035: Protocol Modifications for the DNS Security Extensions (Proposed Standard - IETF stream)
>
>
>


-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf