Re: [DNSOP] [dane] FYI: Verisign files patent application for way of transfering hosting on DNSSEC Domains

Ray Bellis <Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk> Mon, 08 October 2012 14:35 UTC

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On 8 Oct 2012, at 15:13, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com<mailto:Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>> wrote:

On Oct 8, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at<mailto:dot@dotat.at>> wrote:
Prior art:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-koch-dnsop-dnssec-operator-change-01

Interesting timing: the Verisign patent was filed two weeks after this draft was published.

Also from April 2011:

<http://conferences.npl.co.uk/satin/presentations/satin2011slides-Crocker.pdf>

I'm pretty sure that an earlier version of this was presented at the DNSSEC Deployment Workshop held in Reston in October 2008.

Ray