Re: [DNSOP] FYI - Added note about ECDSA resolver issue in Sweden - Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02.txt

George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> Mon, 31 October 2016 04:22 UTC

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From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 14:22:43 +1000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] FYI - Added note about ECDSA resolver issue in Sweden - Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02.txt
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It is only my personal opinion, but I believe registrars are incorrect
in performing crypto alg checks on proffered DS, and this is an
entirely unwarranted, and incorrect understanding of their role. It
conflates one public good (checking) with another public good
(registry of data into the DNS) and assumes one out-ranks the other:
It doesn't, and the inability to track crypto alg change, makes the
checking wrong. Its the lesser of two evils to stop checking, and
permit unknown algorithms through.

I think this needs to be flagged up. Either they should be told to
stop, or the requirements for algorithm agility which their role
places on them should be made explicit.

-George

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Dan York <york@isoc.org> wrote:
> FYI, I submitted a new version of this draft that added some text in the
> section about "Resolvers" that mentions the case Mikael Abrahamsson brought
> to us about how they had to disable DNSSEC validation in the CPE they
> deployed to their customers because the resolver software was not following
> RFC 4035 and was not ignoring signatures with unknown algorithms.
>
> Comments are of course welcome.
>
> For those who are interested in writing I-D's with markdown, I also
> transitioned the source of this version of the document to the flavor of
> markdown that works with Miek Gieben's 'mmark' processor. Paul Jones nicely
> packaged mmark and xml2rfc into a Docker container that works extremely
> well. This document and other links can be found in my Github repo at:
> https://github.com/danyork/draft-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs
>
> Dan
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02.txt
> Date: October 30, 2016 at 11:37:13 PM EDT
> To: Ondrej Sury <ondrej.sury@nic.cz>, Olafur Gudmundsson
> <olafur+ietf@cloudflare.com>, Dan York <york@isoc.org>, " york@isoc.org"
> <york@isoc.org>, Paul Wouters <pwouters@redhat.com>
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>
> A new version of I-D, draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Dan York and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs
> Revision: 02
> Title: Observations on Deploying New DNSSEC Cryptographic Algorithms
> Document date: 2016-10-31
> Group: Individual Submission
> Pages: 9
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs/
> Htmlized:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02
> Diff:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-york-dnsop-deploying-dnssec-crypto-algs-02
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> Abstract:
>   As new cryptographic algorithms are developed for use in DNSSEC
>   signing and validation, this document captures the steps needed for
>   new algorithms to be deployed and enter general usage.  The intent is
>   to ensure a common understanding of the typical deployment process
>   and potentially identify opportunities for improvement of operations.
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