Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http-02.txt

Richard Gibson <richard.j.gibson@oracle.com> Thu, 22 March 2018 02:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http-02.txt
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I personally would rather see a single media type with a transport 
parameter than creation of a distinct media type for each transport 
(UDP, TCP, QUIC, …).


On 03/21/2018 09:36 PM, Davey Song wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I just submit a updated version of dns wireformat over HTTP. This 
> draft has been adopted as the dnsop wg document for quite a while 
> before DOH.  The original intention of this draft is to explore the 
> possiblity of DNS over HTTP(s) use cases and demonstrate its capacity 
> as an experimental draft. But the draft lacked enough specification on 
> HTTP requirement and context at that time. Since DOH later was setup 
> focusing on developing https as DNS transport protocol. So I updated 
> this draft as a a special use case of DOH which served as DNS proxy.
>
> I would like to ask comments and advice in dnsop and doh wgs mainly 
> two quesions:
> 1) (for dns people) Does this proxy use case sounds useful as a IETF 
> experiment document .
> 2) (for HTTP people) Is a media type "application/dns-tcpwireformat" 
> acceptable specially for this use case. We also consider to introduce 
> an optional parameter to existing "application/dns-udpwireformat" MIME 
> in DOH document, because the two media type carries the identical 
> message body (the udp dns wireformat) in DOH request  in proxy use 
> case. We need suggestion here.
>
> Thank to Tim and Paul Hoffman to bring this draft alive.
>
> Davey
>
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> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>>
> Date: 22 March 2018 at 08:59
> Subject: New Version Notification for 
> draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http-02.txt
> To: Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org 
> <mailto:shane@time-travellers.org>>, Paul Vixie <vixie@tisf.net 
> <mailto:vixie@tisf.net>>, Linjian Song <songlinjian@gmail.com 
> <mailto:songlinjian@gmail.com>>
>
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http-02.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Linjian Song and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http
> Revision:       02
> Title:          An Proxy Use Case of DNS over HTTPS
> Document date:  2018-03-21
> Group:          dnsop
> Pages:          6
> URL: 
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-wireformat-http-02.txt 
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>
> Abstract:
>    This memo introduces a DNS proxy use case to tunnel DNS query and
>    response over HTTPs using DOH, a newly proposed DNS transport.  This
>    is useful in some situation where DNS is not working properly and DOH
>    is not widely available for many stub-resolvers.
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