Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com Thu, 11 November 2010 19:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:03:51AM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The last discussion of signing ROOT-SERVERS.NET involved the arguments
> that there's no real value in signing the zone and that there is a
> non-zero cost to doing so.
> 
> I agree with both of those arguments, but I wonder whether it might
> not be a better sales job if we just accepted it maybe ought to be
> signed anyway.  I'm aware that it runs against the grain to do
> something purely for theatrical reasons, but sometimes people like a
> good show.  Every time this topic comes up (especially outside IETF
> circles, where one can perhaps be expected to understand the detailed
> arguments), a number of people argue that it's really necessary to
> sign the zone, or that having an exception for this sets some kind of
> precedent, or something.  I think these discussions waste a lot of
> time, and so as a purely tactical measure it strikes me that we could
> shut down that line of argument by just signing the data.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> A

	Political coordination issues aside, there are some interesting
	technical issues here that have to do with the priming query
	and response.  In the absence of 100% EDNS0 penetration, making
	this change will result in priming failuers.  In the interests
	of security and stability, is this a reasonable tradeoff?

--bill