[DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change
Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> Tue, 06 October 2026 20:46 UTC
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Yeah, dnsman feels definitely wrong to me. I’m looking at other active wg and these names pop up: dns - I actually like that idea, Ted, there’s a lot of groups named like this dnsbis (DNS, like httpbis is HTTP) dnsm (DNS maintenance; sshm, tcpm) dnsmaint (DNS maintenance; mailmaint) dnsme (DNS maintenance and extensions; ipsecme) dnscore (DNS core protocol; sipcore) dnsp (DNS Protocol; but too close to dnsop) dnsu (DNS update; emu) dnswg (DNS Working Group; rtgwg) Out of these - dns, dnswg and dnsme are my favorites. Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) A gentle nudge is always appreciated if I take a little longer to reply. > On 6. 10. 2026, at 22:24, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > > On 6 Oct 2026, at 19:47, Shumon Huque <shuque@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm totally fine with "dnsext", or perhaps "dnsman" (DNS protocol maintenance) if we want an analog to the v6ops/6man split. > > I think dnsman is probably not ideal for.. reasons. If a new name is needed, DNSINT sounds fine. DNSEXT also seems fine. Or, here's a crazy idea, "DNS". :) > > Okay, probably not. > >> My views on cute names have changed over the years. I now think these are mainly fun for the "in crowd" and less welcoming to others. > > This is a pretty good argument against. > >> Also, the camel trope, in my view, is way overused at this point. While it is often used to usefully beat back bad ideas, it is often used more broadly to push back against useful changes too. And the DNS protocol certainly has many deficiencies and areas for improvement. I am not in favor of memorializing this trope in the name of a DNS working group. > > Also a good argument. I liked the idea of CAMEL on first read, but I think the points raised against it are compelling.
- [DNSOP] DNSOP Split & Leadership Change mohamed.boucadair
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Ondřej Surý
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Ondřej Surý
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Frederico A C Neves
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOPDNSOP Split & Leadership Change Wes Hardaker
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Ondřej Surý
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change George Michaelson
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Ted Lemon
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Roy Arends
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Evan Hunt
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Jeroen Massar
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Peter Thomassen
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Benno Overeinder
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- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Donald Eastlake
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Roy Arends
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Shumon Huque
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Michael StJohns
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Joe Abley
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Roy Arends
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Jim Mozley
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Bradley D. Thornton
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change S Moonesamy
- [DNSOP] Re: DNSOP Split & Leadership Change Frederico A C Neves
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