[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53-00.txt

Tommy Jensen <tojens.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 06 July 2025 18:30 UTC

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Happy Second to Last I-D Submission Day!

This draft is short and to the point: it's time to stop accommodating 
Classic DNS over UDP when writing new protocols that can use encrypted 
DNS or Classic DNS over TCP instead. This draft is super short, so 
please see it for my arguments.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Tommy


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A new version of Internet-Draft
draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53-00.txt has been successfully
submitted by Tommy Jensen and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53
Revision: 00
Title: Do Not Accommodate Classic DNS over UDP
Date: 2025-07-06
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 5
URL: 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53-00.txt
Status: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53/
HTML: 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53-00.html
HTMLized: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-tojens-dnsop-do-not-accommodate-udp53


Abstract:

Protocols that rely on Classic DNS have to account for considerations
that only apply to UDP, such as message fragmentation. However, DNS
implementations are already required to support both TCP and UDP, and
using TCP would alleviate these considerations. This document
specifies that new protocols with a dependency on Classic DNS do not
need to account for the limitations of Classic DNS over UDP and can
instead expect implementations to use Classic DNS over TCP.



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