Re: [DNSOP] Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil (Preventing Use of Recursive Nameservers in Reflector Attacks) to BCP

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Paul Wouters wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Dean Anderson wrote:
> 
> > Maybe its not mentioned because its not a practical solution. But
> > whatever the reason it isn't mentioned, a 25 million user VPN is not
> > going to happen with 10/8. A comcast person recently complained on PPML
> > that there wasn't enough RFC1918 space for their internal network.
> 
> Time for them to migrate to IPv6? :)

There was an extended discussion of that.  It was suggested that IPv6
would be killed by IPv4 IP address exhaustion through route table
expansion.

I suggested that maybe IPv6 was already dead, and that one might
consider instead CLNP/TUBA (RFC1347, RFC1561, et al) because it works
already.  One would use ISIS and IDRP instead of OSPF and BGP. Then add
IPv4 proxy gateways and client support as necessary, etc.  I was
surprised to find that this is about as much work as what remains for
IPv6, and we know that CLNP is stable.

I digress. I wrote a detailed message posted on 9/10 on the subject if 
anyone is interested. Contact me offlist, or look in the ppml archives 
at arin.net.

		--Dean

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